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this week the etch-a-sketch came alive during his debate with president obama. he got away with it. he keeps this act up or will we have to fight a tougher fight with obama in the next rounded? michael steele is here with us and cynthia tucker is here as well. thank you, cynthia and michael, there's an old tradition in politics you go to the fringe or hard left or right to win the caucuses and start to move slowly, the big battleship around so by labor day you're ready to confront the enemy at the center. he didn't do that. he stayed right through the summer and masterfully, wednesday, started to go i'm for pre-existing condition coverage, i'm for education and all this good stuff. >> i think part of that, you're right, in your analysis there. that's what happens politically. i think for the romney campaign they took that strategy, elongated it because they had shoring up to do with their base. >> can you pull it off? can you make that switcharoo in september. >> i think you can. >> or october rather. >> i think you can. number one. number two, we saw obama do the same thing. he was
this week the etch-a-sketch came alive during his debate with president obama. he got away with it. he keeps this act up or will we have to fight a tougher fight with obama in the next rounded? michael steele is here with us and cynthia tucker is here as well. thank you, cynthia and michael, there's an old tradition in politics you go to the fringe or hard left or right to win the caucuses and start to move slowly, the big battleship around so by labor day you're ready to confront the enemy at...
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president obama did not win the first debate against mitt romney. whether or not you're happy about that he didn't win. but if your takeaway from this conspiracy theory in this debate is the reason the president didn't win is because mitt romney cheated, then what is the utility of that theory for you? what is the utility of that information? how do you think president obama should then prepare for the second debate? should he just do exactly what he did this past wednesday night, except keep a closer eye out for the cheating because that is the only reason he lost? i mean, it may be comforting to tell yourself this is what really went wrong here but that is not really what went wrong here and making the case that it was does not help your candidate. the worst example of this though, the invention of a comforting new parallel reality that does not mean you have to face hard truths. the worst new instance of this is how the right today responded to the new jobs numbers. today the unemployment rate dropped from 8.1% to 7.8%. it didn't drop for any of
president obama did not win the first debate against mitt romney. whether or not you're happy about that he didn't win. but if your takeaway from this conspiracy theory in this debate is the reason the president didn't win is because mitt romney cheated, then what is the utility of that theory for you? what is the utility of that information? how do you think president obama should then prepare for the second debate? should he just do exactly what he did this past wednesday night, except keep a...
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first, there was president obama's weak debate performance. and then today the jobs report, the second-to-last monthly jobs report to be released before the election is very good news for president obama. unemployment has fallen below 8% for the first time since the president took office in january 2009. the september jobs report showed the u.s. added 114,000 jobs with the unemployment rate dropping to 7.8%. the better news was the bureau of labor statistics was revising job reports for the last two months finding the economy actually added 181,000 jobs up from 141,000 in august. and in august the economy added 142,000 jobs up from the initially lack luster 96,000 initially reported. so there were in total 200,000 new jobs on this jobs report. president obama tried to put today's good news jobs report in context, campaigning in virginia. >> after losing about 800,000 jobs a month when i took office, our businesses have now added 5.2 million new jobs over the past 2 1/2 years. this morning we found out that the unemployment rate has fallen to i
first, there was president obama's weak debate performance. and then today the jobs report, the second-to-last monthly jobs report to be released before the election is very good news for president obama. unemployment has fallen below 8% for the first time since the president took office in january 2009. the september jobs report showed the u.s. added 114,000 jobs with the unemployment rate dropping to 7.8%. the better news was the bureau of labor statistics was revising job reports for the...
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two debates between president obama and mitt romney. >> in terms of thursday's debate, did the president's performance at all during that make the vp debate more vitticcal? critical? >> increased pressure on joe biden. for democrats to get in a very good performance and you ent up looking, paul rye sn a very well-spoken person, although this is going to be his first debate on a stage like this. joe biden has done this many times before. he actually might have a little advantage. as we all know sometimes joe biden is saying things that actually draw attention. so i do think that this is going to be a must-see debate for the country, and, of course, the obama campaign is hoping for a little better performance. >> very gracious way to talk about things that the vice president said in the past. mark murray, thank you very much. >> thanks, alex. >>> in this week's office politic, christy todd whitman, first to defeat an uncome bent governor in an election. today new jersey's only female governor. talks chris christie and her role about bringing a very famous dog to the white house. first we tal
two debates between president obama and mitt romney. >> in terms of thursday's debate, did the president's performance at all during that make the vp debate more vitticcal? critical? >> increased pressure on joe biden. for democrats to get in a very good performance and you ent up looking, paul rye sn a very well-spoken person, although this is going to be his first debate on a stage like this. joe biden has done this many times before. he actually might have a little advantage. as...
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a couple of days before the debate, embracing he was the godfather of obama care. the larger issue is, with mitt romney coming out and saying, i was wrong, does that help him reset his campaign? >> no. >> you say -- >> i say no because he's looking more and more like a shape shifter, which is precisely the stereotype that people have somehow in their minds held about him, including people on the right. you don't know who the real mitt romney is. by doing this it's like he's inflicting 1,000 cuts on himself. this constant movement and bobs and weaving doesn't help him recover when it comes to likability and trustability. >> anne let met get you in. in virginia governor romney was with congressman ryan there. they had the fireworks, and it actually reminlded me of when the republicans would criticize the democrats for having those pillars remember at the last democratic national convention. quite a beautiful sight, but even chuck todd and our first read team noted that image alone could look like you still have a few more debates to go. >> well, i think that's right.
a couple of days before the debate, embracing he was the godfather of obama care. the larger issue is, with mitt romney coming out and saying, i was wrong, does that help him reset his campaign? >> no. >> you say -- >> i say no because he's looking more and more like a shape shifter, which is precisely the stereotype that people have somehow in their minds held about him, including people on the right. you don't know who the real mitt romney is. by doing this it's like he's...
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>> president obama during the debate said he is the one who is going to raise taxes by letting the bush tax cuts expire. >> but we just played two things back to back that do not match. >> look, he said all look, 20% across the board. i think there were two different things he was speaking about there. he has a very pro-growth policy. he has a policy to create 12 million jobs. >> so are you saying he misspoke in one of those? >> i'm not going to get into whether he misspoke or not -- what i know is he has said all along, 20% across the board for everybody, and that means everybody. to what specifically he was speaking there, i'm not exactly sure. but it's a clear choice what you have. we don't need to get caught up on the back and forth. he is going to put forward pro-growth jobs. and 7.8% is an anemic recovery. that is nothing to celebrate. i remember when president bush was criticized by president obama when i worked for him -- >> but for the past four years, republican have said saying over and over and over, he promised 8%. and it's 7.8 now. >> the reason it's below 7.8% is because
>> president obama during the debate said he is the one who is going to raise taxes by letting the bush tax cuts expire. >> but we just played two things back to back that do not match. >> look, he said all look, 20% across the board. i think there were two different things he was speaking about there. he has a very pro-growth policy. he has a policy to create 12 million jobs. >> so are you saying he misspoke in one of those? >> i'm not going to get into whether he...
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that's one thing that obama people can say it's recoverable because there are more debates. but this was bad. and his own supporters, i went to this denver rally. to a person they were like, what was that? what was, and they were your supporters, robert. >> look, let's continues pennsylvania with style. i don't doubt that style is important. let's understand exactly, because i want to drill down -- >> the president who loved style dispensing with style. >> this is a president who is serious about substance and is wondering where it is that mitt romney went with his substance. i bought a whiteboard last night. i should have brought it there's a $4.8 trillion reduction in revenue, okay? according to mitt romney's own plan. there's a 20% rate reduction from the bush tax cuts, we're going to end the estate tax. we're going to cut the corporate tax rate from 35% to 25%. you cannot sit here, mr. speaker or anybody can sit here and say that doesn't require a reduction in the amount of revenue by $4.8 trillion. >> i'll say it i'll say it. >> moderates, levels, everybody says here's
that's one thing that obama people can say it's recoverable because there are more debates. but this was bad. and his own supporters, i went to this denver rally. to a person they were like, what was that? what was, and they were your supporters, robert. >> look, let's continues pennsylvania with style. i don't doubt that style is important. let's understand exactly, because i want to drill down -- >> the president who loved style dispensing with style. >> this is a president...
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we now know more about what president obama was trying to do in his lackluster debate wednesday night. that will be helpful to know. and one thing democrats and republicans can be sure of, it won't happen again. well, we can hope. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. gave it greater horsepower and best in class 38 mpg highway... advanced headlights... and zero gravity seats? yeah, that would be cool. ♪ introducing the completely reimagined nissan altima. it's our most innovative altima ever. nissan. innovation that excites. ♪ [ male announcer ] how do you make 70,000 trades a second... ♪ reach one customer at a time? ♪ or help doctors turn billions of bytes of shared information... ♪ into a fifth anniversary of remission? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it. is the same frequent heartburn treatment as prilosec otc. now with a fancy coating that gives you a burst of wildberry flavor. now why make a flavored heartburn pill? because this is america. and we don't just make things you want, we make things
we now know more about what president obama was trying to do in his lackluster debate wednesday night. that will be helpful to know. and one thing democrats and republicans can be sure of, it won't happen again. well, we can hope. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. gave it greater horsepower and best in class 38 mpg highway... advanced headlights... and zero gravity seats? yeah, that would be cool. ♪ introducing the completely reimagined nissan altima. it's our most...
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president obama says his record on foreign affairs speaks for itself. yet a may gallup polls show vets favor governor romney. in fact, during wednesday's debate governor romney reiterated his commitment to strengthen the nation's military. >> we have a responsibility to protect the lives and liberties of our people, and that means a military second to none. i do not believe in cutting our military. i believe in maintaining the strength of america's military. >> so let's bring in beau biden, attorney general for the state of delaware. he is also a major in the delaware national guard having served a 12-pomonth deployment iraq. he's also the vice president's son. mitt romney has hammered president obama for the automatic military cuts that could take place as a result of congress failing to reach a debt deal. even the defense secretary said the cuts could be staef dating. does that hurt the president in the vet community? >> number one, congress must act and avoid sequestration op any of these defense cuts. number two, you know, governor romney seems to c
president obama says his record on foreign affairs speaks for itself. yet a may gallup polls show vets favor governor romney. in fact, during wednesday's debate governor romney reiterated his commitment to strengthen the nation's military. >> we have a responsibility to protect the lives and liberties of our people, and that means a military second to none. i do not believe in cutting our military. i believe in maintaining the strength of america's military. >> so let's bring in...
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we now know more about what president obama was trying to do in his lackluster debate wednesday night. that will be helpful to know. >>> and one thing democrats and republicans can be sure of, it won't happen again. well, we can hope. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. irst step. for the spender who needs a little help saving. for adding "& sons." for the dreamer, planning an early escape. for the mother of the bride. for whoever you are, for whatever you're trying to achieve, pnc has technology, guidance, and over 150 years of experience to help you get there. ♪ that's a good thing, but it doesn't cover everything. only about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. so consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, they help save you up to thousands in out-of-pocket costs. call today to request a free decision guide. with these types of plans, you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients... plus, there are no netw
we now know more about what president obama was trying to do in his lackluster debate wednesday night. that will be helpful to know. >>> and one thing democrats and republicans can be sure of, it won't happen again. well, we can hope. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. irst step. for the spender who needs a little help saving. for adding "& sons." for the dreamer, planning an early escape. for the mother of the bride. for whoever you are, for...
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what would he have said if president obama had raised the 47% remarks in the debate the other night? here is romney's answer. >> clearly in a campaign with hundreds if not thousands of speeches and question and answer sessions now and then you're going to say something that doesn't come out right. in this case i said something that is just completely wrong. and i absolutely believe, however, that my life has shown that i care about 100%. >> president obama didn't bring up the 47% remarks in the debate and caught a lot of flack for it. i question it here on this network to one of his advisers. but he probably wanted to avoid giving romney the chance to address it in front of 67 million people, that kind of platform. the romney camp wasn't satisfied. they were probably expecting it to give their candidate an opportunity. okay. so they're not happy with the good debate performance and wanted a bite at the 47% apple to straighten things out. they sent romney over to fox news so romney can finally say he was wrong on a different platform of course. romney sure took his sweet time. he didn
what would he have said if president obama had raised the 47% remarks in the debate the other night? here is romney's answer. >> clearly in a campaign with hundreds if not thousands of speeches and question and answer sessions now and then you're going to say something that doesn't come out right. in this case i said something that is just completely wrong. and i absolutely believe, however, that my life has shown that i care about 100%. >> president obama didn't bring up the 47%...
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can't debate so change numbers. and laura igraham says, job numbers from labor secretary hilda solis are total pro obama. congressman allen west challenged the numbers, quote, chicago style politics is at work here. and, of course, rush limbaugh took time to get unreal. >> it's no different than obama declaring the temperature is going to be 75 degrees every day no matter what your thermometer says. >> that's the problem with the right and that's the problem with governor romney. ey can't stand the truth. things are getting better. joining me now is joan walsh, editor at large for salon.com and an msnbc political analyst. and e.j. dionne, columnist for "the washington post" and an msnbc contributor. joan, let me start with you. what's behind these conspiracy theories? >> they just don't want to accept the realities that the president has made things better, reverend al. i think you forgot one. rush, when hurricane ivan was -- rush accused president obama of messing with the weather or the weather service. i'm not su
can't debate so change numbers. and laura igraham says, job numbers from labor secretary hilda solis are total pro obama. congressman allen west challenged the numbers, quote, chicago style politics is at work here. and, of course, rush limbaugh took time to get unreal. >> it's no different than obama declaring the temperature is going to be 75 degrees every day no matter what your thermometer says. >> that's the problem with the right and that's the problem with governor romney. ey...
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watch this tape that our producers put together of critiques of barack obama's debate performance in the past. this is not last night's debate. take a look. >> a lot of the pundants are saying this was not a very strong performance last night for barack obama. >> hillary clinton is running as the tough fighter, and if obama doesn't show democrats he can be a tough fighter against the republican attack machine so called but in fact it is, then, you know, democrats are going to pull back from him. >> subpar performance in the debate by senator obama and a great performance by senator clinton. >> i think they saw john mccain is the tough guy and barack obama is the cerebral guy. >> he seemed to lose control. >> john mccain clearly won this battle on points. >> so this is it every time. i actually thought that he was during the primary a subpar debater. in fact, debate after debate in which he wouldn't throw the punch and this was the big -- >> right. i think part of the issue is romney has been making so many big mistakes and has been so underperforming. a lot of us forgot he can stay s
watch this tape that our producers put together of critiques of barack obama's debate performance in the past. this is not last night's debate. take a look. >> a lot of the pundants are saying this was not a very strong performance last night for barack obama. >> hillary clinton is running as the tough fighter, and if obama doesn't show democrats he can be a tough fighter against the republican attack machine so called but in fact it is, then, you know, democrats are going to pull...
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paul ryan gushed over president obama's skills on the debate stage. >> president obama is a very -- he's a very gifted speaker. the man's been on the national stage for many years. he's an experienced debater. >> shockingly, senior white house adviser david plouffe had the same feelings about governor mitt romney. >> we'd expect it all along that governor romney will have a good night. he's prepared more than any candidate in history and shown himself to be a good debater through the years. >> even the candidates were tamping down expectations yesterday. >> i don't think anyone would suggest the debates aren't important. i can't tell you how important it will be. i don't know what will happen at the debates. >> governor romney is a good debater. i'm just okay. >> the soft performance has gotten so soft it's almost evaporated. but while almost everyone seems to be muting enthusiasm in trying to undersell new jersey governor chris christie is taking a different tack. overselling with gusto. >> come thursday morning, the entire narrative of this race is going to change. we have a candidate
paul ryan gushed over president obama's skills on the debate stage. >> president obama is a very -- he's a very gifted speaker. the man's been on the national stage for many years. he's an experienced debater. >> shockingly, senior white house adviser david plouffe had the same feelings about governor mitt romney. >> we'd expect it all along that governor romney will have a good night. he's prepared more than any candidate in history and shown himself to be a good debater...
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and if barack obama can't do something with that in the next debate, then there's really some problem with his debate performance because this is a slow one coming in over the plate. the trouble that the president has in talking about the whole subject is he can't be too optimistic -- of course. >> -- because in the past what's happened is when he's gotten too far ahead of himself in saying that things are looking rosy, there are still a lot of people out there who are hurting and they don't want to hear that. the president has to kind of walk a fine line. but any rational person should know when there's signs of hope, to run them down and minimize them and tell people that it's not good news isn't helpful for anybody except maybe your political fortunes. >> incapable of celebrating good news. julian, jonathan, thank you both. >>> neck, mitt walks his words backwards. >> let me see if i can come up with a two-minute answer that might have been more effective. liar! lie, lie, lie, liar, lie, lie, lie, lie, liar! [ thunder crashes ] [ male announcer ] if you think all batteries are the
and if barack obama can't do something with that in the next debate, then there's really some problem with his debate performance because this is a slow one coming in over the plate. the trouble that the president has in talking about the whole subject is he can't be too optimistic -- of course. >> -- because in the past what's happened is when he's gotten too far ahead of himself in saying that things are looking rosy, there are still a lot of people out there who are hurting and they...
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>> the loser is the obama debate prep team. they did an awful job. i think that they told the president to go in there and play defense and act presidential and i think that that worked in his disadvantage. >> okay. susan, how about you? >> governor romney. he did a great job this week at the debate. he's certainly the winner. and in spite of morris' statement, it's the person that actually does the debate, and that's president obama, and he's the loser of the week. >> okay. >> all right, you guys. as i like to say, you're all three winners with me. >> i love susan. i'm on record, i love susan! >> morris, we get along. we're good friends. >> guys, thanks so much. that's a wrap-up of "weekends with alex witt." up next, milissa rehberger continuing our coverage right after the break. i'm alex witt. have a great dpap that make moms happy too. with wholesome noodles and bite sized chicken, nothing brings you together like chicken noodle soup from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. like chicken noodle soup from campbell's. why they have a raise yo
>> the loser is the obama debate prep team. they did an awful job. i think that they told the president to go in there and play defense and act presidential and i think that that worked in his disadvantage. >> okay. susan, how about you? >> governor romney. he did a great job this week at the debate. he's certainly the winner. and in spite of morris' statement, it's the person that actually does the debate, and that's president obama, and he's the loser of the week. >>...
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the jobs report is in easing concern about obama's weak debate. nate silver said first day in while obama is is happy for everyone to talk about the economy because the numbers are better than expected with the unemployment rate dropping to 7.8%, a four-year low. exactly where it was when president obama took office. there was only a net gain of 114,000 jobs created last month. too low for sustained unemployment reduction. so something for both sides to like. the president has to be thrilled about this jobs numbers, though. it's a game changer unless it's not. the president is the out on the trail pushing it. >> as a nation we are moving forward again. we're moving forward. more people are getting jobs. now, every month reminds us that we've still got too many of our friends and neighbors looking for work. today's news certainly is not an excuse to talk down the economy to score a few political points. it's a reminder that this country has come too far to turn back now. >> my friends, whenever fall comes the leaves turn pretty colors and the jobs
the jobs report is in easing concern about obama's weak debate. nate silver said first day in while obama is is happy for everyone to talk about the economy because the numbers are better than expected with the unemployment rate dropping to 7.8%, a four-year low. exactly where it was when president obama took office. there was only a net gain of 114,000 jobs created last month. too low for sustained unemployment reduction. so something for both sides to like. the president has to be thrilled...
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for obama supporters. the reality is those numbers help obama tremendously. at the same time, obama has the opportunity now to come back and do what he did the very next day. i think that was a key day for him. >> if he had that sort of debate performance and then we'd gotten job numbers that had us stuck at 8.2, then you start talking about a crisis at that point for the campaign. >> we have a chance to make it a much bigger story, precisely because the republicans have been so nice to us and delivered, for example, jack welch. the numbers were entirely fixed. he's been chimed in this morning by steve forbes, also said these have been fixed numbers. they intended for them to go down precisely under 8% before the election started. this is some crazy stuff going on on the right here. that might generate enough interest to make the debate -- >> i just want to -- just in case anyone has been sleeping under a rock on friday or something. i just wanted to show what jack welch's response was, it was a tweeted re
for obama supporters. the reality is those numbers help obama tremendously. at the same time, obama has the opportunity now to come back and do what he did the very next day. i think that was a key day for him. >> if he had that sort of debate performance and then we'd gotten job numbers that had us stuck at 8.2, then you start talking about a crisis at that point for the campaign. >> we have a chance to make it a much bigger story, precisely because the republicans have been so...
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joe biden, out debated barack obama in every single debate back in 2008. every single debate. chris dodd, joe biden, hillary clinton just ran circles around him and people get -- at some point you just have to say because he doesn't have his -- i mean, as great of a grasp on the issues as the people he's debating. >> that's sobering but true. i believe it's the professor versus -- >> how can you be president of the united states, mark halperin and not have these basic answers? >> well, it's more the format i think than not having the answers. he spent a lot of the evening going after mitt romney for things that he thinks he can win the election on like taxes and medicare. it wasn't like he never responded to him. >> isn't the format in washington that you get in a room with someone and you go at it and try and figure it out? >> and that's what we're asking. has he been too isolated? listen, we talked to him -- the guy is brilliant. he really is. but has he become so isolated there's not the back and forth with even democratic leadership? because the democr
joe biden, out debated barack obama in every single debate back in 2008. every single debate. chris dodd, joe biden, hillary clinton just ran circles around him and people get -- at some point you just have to say because he doesn't have his -- i mean, as great of a grasp on the issues as the people he's debating. >> that's sobering but true. i believe it's the professor versus -- >> how can you be president of the united states, mark halperin and not have these basic answers?...
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in fact, the "los angeles times" says, quote, obama fans are shocked by mitt romney's dominance in debate. "the chicago tribune" said for obama words not said spoke the loude loudest. it said obama hit with a left hook on tv and online. the president is hitted to wisconsin, but not before taking one last parting shot a a fiery rally in denver not too long ago. >> when i got onto the stage, i met this very spirited fellow who claimed to be mitt romney. it couldn't have been mitt romney, because the real mitt romney has been running around the country for the last year promising $5 trillion in tax cuts to pay for the wealthy. the fellow on stage last night said he didn't know anything about that. >> around the same time governor romney was making a surprise appearance at the conservative political action conference, cpac in denver before heading to virginia for an event with congressman paul ryan later on this evening. zoo >> i know your passion for econo america and your desire to take our country back. for that to happen you guys have to cheer here and knock on doors and get people who vo
in fact, the "los angeles times" says, quote, obama fans are shocked by mitt romney's dominance in debate. "the chicago tribune" said for obama words not said spoke the loude loudest. it said obama hit with a left hook on tv and online. the president is hitted to wisconsin, but not before taking one last parting shot a a fiery rally in denver not too long ago. >> when i got onto the stage, i met this very spirited fellow who claimed to be mitt romney. it couldn't have...
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mitt romney is the clear winner of last night's debate, even i'm co conceding the obama loss. we all agree on this. the real question on moving forward is weather romney's win will change the race. we've seen mondale outperform president raleigh in 1984 and with john kerry defeated bush. neither kerry or mondale translated that into an election night win, although steve kornacki likes to think about a potential mondale president history. as the dust settles, they're back on the trail today. obama is en route to a rally in wisconsin, but earlier today in denver supporters saw the obama we hoped to see last night. >> when i got onto the stage, i met this very spirited fellow who claimed to be mitt romney. he said that he doesn't even know that there's such laws that encourage outsourcing, never heard of them. he said if it's true, he must need a new accountant. we know for sure it was not the real mitt romney, because he seems to be doing just fine with his current accountant. thank goodness somebody is finally getting tough on big bird. it's about time. >> that guy's a winner.
mitt romney is the clear winner of last night's debate, even i'm co conceding the obama loss. we all agree on this. the real question on moving forward is weather romney's win will change the race. we've seen mondale outperform president raleigh in 1984 and with john kerry defeated bush. neither kerry or mondale translated that into an election night win, although steve kornacki likes to think about a potential mondale president history. as the dust settles, they're back on the trail today....
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we've soon barack obama debate better than he did tonight. has the presidency changed himself so much that he can't go back to being a good debater? this is what he's like now? >> that's the $64 question. if what we saw tonight is what we see in the next two debates, president obama is going to be in serious trouble. how is this going to play in ohio? he has to make the case to the middle class that he's headed in the right direction with the economy. >> not one time did he say i want the american people to know we've added private-sector jobs for the last 30 months and we're headed in the right direction. how hard is that to say? is that hard? >> ezra klein is coming up to check some of the money numbers that we did hear tonight. we're mad about the numbers that were not articulated as we check the one that were. our live coverage of the first presidential debate. stay with us. >> this tax plan. and now, five weeks before the election, he's saying that his big bold idea is, never mind. ♪ [ male announcer ] how do you turn an entrepreneur's
we've soon barack obama debate better than he did tonight. has the presidency changed himself so much that he can't go back to being a good debater? this is what he's like now? >> that's the $64 question. if what we saw tonight is what we see in the next two debates, president obama is going to be in serious trouble. how is this going to play in ohio? he has to make the case to the middle class that he's headed in the right direction with the economy. >> not one time did he say i...
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here's one from mario, pretty sure obama will knock that debate out of the park. and dan tweeted, one can hope but it will be a drawp. people will hear what they want to hear. most minds were made up months ago. if this year's election were judged on the ability to keep things interesting on the campaign trail joe biden would win hands down. his speeches are not the only part of the equationp. there is the matter of his sex appeal. take a look at this. >> since i've been here a number of times over the last 20 years, i knew it was going to be -- you mind if i take my coat off with your permission? thank you. all right. >> check out the buysep flex -- are we really going to show a bisep flex? we missed it. okay. close your eyes. okay. the vp's allure is the subject of a new piece in politico. politico senior washington, d.c. correspondent jonathan allen wrote it and joins me now. jonathan, we did miss the bicep shot, paul ryan has the px 90 thing going on. we've seen the example of joe biden on the trail, joe biden being very smooth, trying to relate and be charmin
here's one from mario, pretty sure obama will knock that debate out of the park. and dan tweeted, one can hope but it will be a drawp. people will hear what they want to hear. most minds were made up months ago. if this year's election were judged on the ability to keep things interesting on the campaign trail joe biden would win hands down. his speeches are not the only part of the equationp. there is the matter of his sex appeal. take a look at this. >> since i've been here a number of...
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look, barack obama hasn't debated in four years. mitt romney has had a lot of debates in that time, but i do think it's worth noting, andrea, that all of mitt romney's debates have been against multiple people. there was never a time where he had a one on one debate against rick santorum or newt gingrich or rick perry. always debating four or five people who were really sort of aiming at him. he was the frontrunner throughout. barack obama had four debates against hillary clinton, one on one in the 2008 democratic primary, then three debates against john mccain. it's a different dynamic than to be the frontrunner where four or five people are aiming at you throughout a debate. >> here we are on the eve practically of the first debate and it's supposed to be an economic, domestic policy. >> right. >> and now foreign policy has reared its head. we have first of all mitt romney and "the wall street journal" an op-ed, saying that these developments are not as president obama says, mere bumps in the road. they are major issues that put o
look, barack obama hasn't debated in four years. mitt romney has had a lot of debates in that time, but i do think it's worth noting, andrea, that all of mitt romney's debates have been against multiple people. there was never a time where he had a one on one debate against rick santorum or newt gingrich or rick perry. always debating four or five people who were really sort of aiming at him. he was the frontrunner throughout. barack obama had four debates against hillary clinton, one on one in...
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romney's debate partner calls the president a tough debater. >> barack obama is going to be formidable, and i think it will be a good debate, but i certainly would not underestimate what barack obama brings to it. >> reporter: john kerry's playing romney with the president. in a weekend memo, republicans urged kerry to press the president on libya and syria. romney calls obama's foreign policy dangerous. romney's debate plan, clearly and concisely explain how he can fix the economy. >> i expect to be able to describe that in a way people will understand, and if they do, i get elected. >> reporter: his running mate, paul ryan, is already preparing for his own debate a week away. >> i really believe in the policies that we're providing, we're pursuing. and at the end of the day, i'm just going to go in there and be me. >> reporter: and if you can't control what actually happens in the debate, you certainly control what happens afterwards. the spin already in the planning. ryan's going to be with romney in virginia. the president is staying in colorado for a rally there. veronica? >> trac
romney's debate partner calls the president a tough debater. >> barack obama is going to be formidable, and i think it will be a good debate, but i certainly would not underestimate what barack obama brings to it. >> reporter: john kerry's playing romney with the president. in a weekend memo, republicans urged kerry to press the president on libya and syria. romney calls obama's foreign policy dangerous. romney's debate plan, clearly and concisely explain how he can fix the economy....
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barack obama. >>> americans are hoping for a few magic moments during the debate. we thought it was fun to look backwards and talk about our favorite debate moments throughout history. experts disagree how much the debates affect the voters. there's no question they shape how we recommend the elections. we all thought about this and came up with a signature moment from debates past. i'll lead it off. i had a lot that came to my mind, but one stands out from 1992. bill clinton and george bush sr. and ross perot. it was the first die bait that year. the back story was george bush won the white house by sort of playing on patriotism themes. flag burns issues like this. really in my ways seemed to question dukakis's pati patriot. here comes bill clinton. he was at oxford during the vietnam war and participating in protests over there. george bush sr. on the campaign trail and the republicans started to play this up and coming close to questioning the patriotism of xwlibill clinton. bush brought it up and they went to clinton for a response. they think it can work here
barack obama. >>> americans are hoping for a few magic moments during the debate. we thought it was fun to look backwards and talk about our favorite debate moments throughout history. experts disagree how much the debates affect the voters. there's no question they shape how we recommend the elections. we all thought about this and came up with a signature moment from debates past. i'll lead it off. i had a lot that came to my mind, but one stands out from 1992. bill clinton and...
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. >>> president obama took a break from debate preparation today in nevada to visit the set of the racial maddow tv commercial. a new national nbc news poll tonight shows that 52% of registered voters view the president positively, 42% view him negatively. 41% view mitt romney positively, 44% view romney negatively. mitt romney's favorability rating is lower than every other presidential nominee's rating at this point in the election in the history of this poll, except for george h.w. bush's 34/52 rating. and he lost that election. tonight, ann romney seems sure that the country will soon realize how lucky we are that mitt romney is running for president. >> i know he's very well prepared. he's focused, he's very bright. i think the country will be blessed by having someone with his skill set, his experience and his -- just his goodness. to be able to run this country. this guy does care that he's out there. and he's a person with compassion. >> first lady michelle obama did not attempt to lower expectationings for her husband today. >> he doesn't need much advice. he's a very good debate
. >>> president obama took a break from debate preparation today in nevada to visit the set of the racial maddow tv commercial. a new national nbc news poll tonight shows that 52% of registered voters view the president positively, 42% view him negatively. 41% view mitt romney positively, 44% view romney negatively. mitt romney's favorability rating is lower than every other presidential nominee's rating at this point in the election in the history of this poll, except for george h.w....
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he has to use the debate to repair that and only then can he pivot to obama, which is why he needs a long strategy. >> the last point is right. it's a difficult match between the venue, the medium in that debate and what he needs to accomplish, which is about seeming like a guy who cares about the middle class. there's ways to do that in ads and staging and all sorts of other things. hard when you're standing next to the president. but that's the distance he needs to go. e.j. dionne, great to have you here. >> nice to see you. >>> it's political debate season to be sure. massachusetts senator scott brown and elizabeth warren just completed their second televised debate. you might recall the first one. let's see if senator brown's, but she doesn't look native american card is the only one in his deck. that's it next. machine look, if you have copd like me, you know it can be hard to breathe, and how that feels. copd includes chronic bronchitis and emphysema. spiriva helps control my copd symptoms by keeping my airways open for 24 hours. plus, it reduces copd flare-ups. spiriva is the
he has to use the debate to repair that and only then can he pivot to obama, which is why he needs a long strategy. >> the last point is right. it's a difficult match between the venue, the medium in that debate and what he needs to accomplish, which is about seeming like a guy who cares about the middle class. there's ways to do that in ads and staging and all sorts of other things. hard when you're standing next to the president. but that's the distance he needs to go. e.j. dionne,...
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barack obama has been right. they are the facts. >> in the spotlight tonight the next debate. at this exact moment one week from now vice president joe biden and paul ryan will be hugging their families on a stage where they will have completed their debate. >> what i have been doing mostly is studying up on congressman ryans positions on the issues. and governor romney has embraced everything i can see. i don't want to say anything in the debate that is not completely accurate. >> meanwhile, paul ryan is pretending that he is not memorizing lines. >> you know me well, i don't try to be anybody other than who i am. i believe what i believe and i do what i do and believe in the policies that we are providing, pursuing, at the end of the day i'm going to go in there and be me. >> crystal, let's look at paul ryan going with his gutt with chris wallace. >> you haven't given me the math. >> it would take me too long to go through all of the math. >> it is too long. it is complicated. i don't want to talk about. i mean, joe biden is not going to have any fear of being aggressive. if
barack obama has been right. they are the facts. >> in the spotlight tonight the next debate. at this exact moment one week from now vice president joe biden and paul ryan will be hugging their families on a stage where they will have completed their debate. >> what i have been doing mostly is studying up on congressman ryans positions on the issues. and governor romney has embraced everything i can see. i don't want to say anything in the debate that is not completely accurate....
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we know president obama and mitt romney will face off for the debate tomorrow. their wives have already gone head-to-head in the kitchen for "family circle's" annual cookie bake-off. michelle obama's white and dark cookie beat michelle obama's m&m cookie by 287 votes. "family circle" insists it's been a bellwether in four of the last five elections. paul ryan is singing a jingle for dubuque, iowa, ham. >> how about a song? one, two, three, ♪ dubuque, dubuque i was singing the song, the ham used to dance around a little bit? >> mitt romney has a new york yankees connection, turns out. sort of. romney's blind trust sold its financial stake in the yes network. >>> a new social media campaign asks you to listen to the boss. bruce springsteen is lending his name at "image" to support guy marriage. the goal is to pass new laws in maine, iowa and new hampshire. >>> k the white house glowed a lovely color of pink last night. it's estimated more than 200,000 women will be diagnosed with breast cancer in the u.s. just this year. >>> let's talk about another color, gray.
we know president obama and mitt romney will face off for the debate tomorrow. their wives have already gone head-to-head in the kitchen for "family circle's" annual cookie bake-off. michelle obama's white and dark cookie beat michelle obama's m&m cookie by 287 votes. "family circle" insists it's been a bellwether in four of the last five elections. paul ryan is singing a jingle for dubuque, iowa, ham. >> how about a song? one, two, three, ♪ dubuque, dubuque i...
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, obama, romney, who's the better debater both have clear debate skills and shown those in their debates over the time. governor romney had very good debates in the republican primaries against his opponents and was very effective in those. president obama had some pretty good debates particularly the general election debates against senator mccain. the new format they're using i'm not sure it favors either candidate. it gives president obama a little bit more opportunity to talk at length which he wants to do about his record and about the things he's going to do going forward and also to draw some contrast with governor romney. for governor romney it may give him an opportunity rather than looking like he has canned answers to show people he's more thoughtful and warmer and more likable. >> dan balz, both warm and likable. thank you very much. thanks for being with us. >> thanks. >> up next, new questions about security and intelligence behind the benghazi terror attack. former ambassador to iraq chris hill joining us live here in denver. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" only
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many more people think that obama will win this debate. the expectations are low for him. he really does. he doesn't just need to hold his own, needs to get in there and give people a reason why he looks and acts like a president in a better way than obama would. >> but michelle, there's so much doubt going that paul ryan, according to the national review, he's even calling conservative pundits to reassure them. let me read you a national review report. it writes, paul ryan has a new mission. reassuring conservative pundits. republicans familiar with the calls say ryan's tone has been positive and upbeat but he has acknowledged that the campaign has made some missteps. this is not liberal bias. this is the national review reporting. the vice presidential candidate is trying to reassure conservative pundits. >> well, conservative pundits, you know, mainstream republican, nobody has been a huge romney constituency here. you know, conservatives loved it when romney got put on the ticket. they thought this was a good sign that the romney campaign was finally going to be about
many more people think that obama will win this debate. the expectations are low for him. he really does. he doesn't just need to hold his own, needs to get in there and give people a reason why he looks and acts like a president in a better way than obama would. >> but michelle, there's so much doubt going that paul ryan, according to the national review, he's even calling conservative pundits to reassure them. let me read you a national review report. it writes, paul ryan has a new...
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gallup poll, rural whites prefer ahmadinejad to obama. a quote from a west virginia resident, i like him better. >> the one poll that republicans might accept as legitimate. guess where that headline originated? "the onion," america's favorite source for fake news. another "onion" news item today, florida to experiment with new 600 lever voting machine. >>> finally, the latest music and dance tribute to president obama. this is all over the place literally. >> i'm barack obama and i party. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> that guy behind the mask is one hell of a dancer. the performance is suitably entitled "obama works it." that's "hardball" for now. coming up next, your business with j.j. ramberg. or best-ever meatloaf. go to campbellskitchen.com for recipes, plus a valuable coupon. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. side by side so you get the same coverage, often for less. that's one smart board. what else does it do, reverse gravity? [ laughs ] [ laughs ] [ whooshing ] tell me about it. why am i not going anywhere? you don't believe hard enoug
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that's a lot to do in a 90-minute debate. i think the challenge for both candidates and where president obama may have a strength. rom knee, i don't know if he does or not, the no time limit. you have no time limit on these answers can be dangerous and an incredible opportunity. >> you can talk yourself in a hole. >> you can talk yourself in a hole, but you can use it to frame and box your opponent in. >> we'll see if there's a clear winner. thank you very much, michael. thank you, chris. it's always a pleasure. >>> a huge victory for democrats in pennsylvania in a hard-fought battle against that state's new voter i.d. law for now. a judge in the past few hours blocked the law from goalkeeper into effect. judge simpson ordered the sat not to enforce the voter i.d. requirement in this year's election, but it will go into full effect next year. opponents of the law say it would hurt voter turnover, especially among minorities and the leeld he who are likely to vote for democrats in that state. it was in june that a top state re
that's a lot to do in a 90-minute debate. i think the challenge for both candidates and where president obama may have a strength. rom knee, i don't know if he does or not, the no time limit. you have no time limit on these answers can be dangerous and an incredible opportunity. >> you can talk yourself in a hole. >> you can talk yourself in a hole, but you can use it to frame and box your opponent in. >> we'll see if there's a clear winner. thank you very much, michael. thank...
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you know, if, like, al gore, you have president obama losing three debates, it can happen. but let's say you lose ohio, suddenly mitt romney has to win north carolina. he has to win virginia. he has to win iowa. he has to win new hampshire. he has to win colorado. he has to win nevada. and, of course, he has to win florida, which he's losing now. by the way, if you don't win florida, we're not even having this discussion. let's talk about what we're getting for christmas. >> it's clear that in looking for a path to 270 electoral votes for romney without ohio, we're neither predicting or hoping it will happen, we're simply running the numbers. ohio is -- >> are we going to have to caveat for the rest of the year? >> almost always, just for that. the left is still a little restive. >> particularly fox news is in on the conspiracy polls. >> closing the auto bailout, not strong support from evangelicals, and it's more of a populist state than some of these others. so he can get to 270 without ohio because there may be a rising tide that lifts all the other battleground states,
you know, if, like, al gore, you have president obama losing three debates, it can happen. but let's say you lose ohio, suddenly mitt romney has to win north carolina. he has to win virginia. he has to win iowa. he has to win new hampshire. he has to win colorado. he has to win nevada. and, of course, he has to win florida, which he's losing now. by the way, if you don't win florida, we're not even having this discussion. let's talk about what we're getting for christmas. >> it's clear...